Fake thinking and real thinking

Published on January 28, 2025 8:05 PM GMT(Audio version here, or search for "Joe Carlsmith Audio" on your podcast app.)“There comes a moment when the children who have been playing at burglars hush suddenly: was that a real footstep in the hall?”  - C.S. Lew…
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## Main Content### Overall Topic/TitleReal Thinking vs. Fake Thinking### First SubtopicAI**Content Paragraph**Examples of "fake vs. real":- Map Thinking vs. World Thinking- Hollow vs. Solid- Rote vs. New- Soldier vs. Scout- Dry vs. VisceralExcerpted Transcript of Podcast by Paul Christiano includes:- Original Misconceptions about AI and its impact- The idea of a "fake vs. real" distinction itself- Loose definitions of "real" lead to overly vague concepts### Second SubtopicPhilosophy**Content Paragraph**- Traditional philosophy & logic prioritize "map thinking"- Information exists primarily as discrete data points to construct logical models- Leads to divorced arguments and stale conclusions rooted in intuition and familiarity, rather than grounded in reality (e.g., "Mary's Room" experiment in philosophy of mind)- Rare instances of profound insights occur when concepts are directly confronted with reality### Third SubtopicCompetitive Debate**Content Paragraph**- Communication is reduced to binary assertions and rebuttals that assemble supporting quotes- Arguments themselves become abstract fights, detached from actual concerns- True engagement reemerges in moments of intense personal insight or introspection### Fourth SubtopicEveryday Life**Content Paragraph**- Tendency to think more "for real" about topics with personal stakes- Exceptions occur when conflicts arise between personal stakes and deeply-held convictions or biases- Even the most mundane topics can provoke real thinking inmoments of realization### Fifth SubtopicLewis on the Living God**Content Paragraph**- C.S. Lewis expresses the unearthly dimensions of divine encounters in terms we can grasp- Profound thinking pulls us towards the world and its creator- "God himself, alive, pulling at the other end of the cord, perhaps approaching at an infinite speed, the hunter, king, husband."### Sixth SubtopicWhy Does Real Thinking Matter?**Content Paragraph**- Real thinking: - Better for getting to the truth - Rooted in both science and spirituality - Symbolized by sincerity and attunement, by truth- seeking as the "engine of our soul" - Real thinking often accompanied by a sense of purpose - Problematic, however, if it becomes a tool for asserting one's superiority**Content Paragraph**- Real thinking aligned with the function of our brains as truth-mapping machines- We can pursue real thinking through practices that: - Slow us down - encourage exploration of our curiosity and aliveness - foster an awareness of our "why" - tether our concepts to real experiences - transform arguments into dynamic tools for seeing - help us remember the gap between the model and the reality it seeks to map - allow us to experience our helplessness in the face of truth### Seventh SubtopicStaying Awake**Content Paragraph**- C.S. Lewis' metaphor of the burglar highlights the immediacy of reality and the potential for "fake" thinking to escalate into self-deception and denial- The future, and particularly the advent of AI, requires us to cultivate real thinking habits so that we can: - Respond to emerging phenomena - Avoid assumption-based thinking - Remain receptive and adaptable during times of rapid change